Episode 8: "From Cult to Consciousness" with Olivia "Liv" Fisch
Guest: Olivia "Liv" Fisch – A leadership coach, spiritual guide, and author whose path from a cultish childhood to empowering high achievers shines through her work at
https://www.oliveyahfisch.com/. There, she offers “human medicine” to awaken purpose and presence, a mission sparked by her multi-year YPO friendship with Smoke.
Bio
Oliveyah Fisch (aka Liv) is a master coach, #1 best-selling author, and expert in driving impactful change for individuals and teams. With over 15 years of experience, Liv empowers professionals and organizations to enhance communication, resolve conflicts, and reach peak performance. Specializing in tailored strategies, she blends awareness, mindfulness, and evidence-based techniques to foster lasting transformation. Whether guiding executive teams or emerging leaders, Liv brings clarity, enthusiasm, and actionable insights, passionate about building resilient, high-performing teams and individuals who thrive in today’s fast-paced world.
Setting: Smoke in Sedona’s vibrant stillness, Liv in her grounded space—two frequencies syncing up across the miles.
Summary
Smoke kicks off with infectious enthusiasm, his YPO-rooted bond with Liv setting a warm, authentic tone. Liv peels back her layers: born into a manipulative cult, she questioned its rigidity as a child—“Why are we here? What are they searching for?”—and escaped at 6 when her parents bravely broke free. That unsafe start honed her superpower of reading people, though it also drove dissociation (spinning a necklace) and later addictions masked as success (over-exercising, overworking). Smoke mirrors this, recounting his own compartmentalization of trauma until his Nepal awakening flipped the switch. Together, they climb the ladder of consciousness—from victimhood to divine flow—offering tools like self-kindness, intentional input, and presence. Liv’s “human medicine” concept, central to her site’s ethos of healing through connection, emerges as a beacon: we heal ourselves to hold space for others. Smoke’s podcast, she notes, ripples this out, raising the planet’s vibration—one vulnerable convo at a time. Visit her site for a taste of her upcoming book, Spiritual Heartbeat, and coaching that turns triggers into growth.
Learnings
- Befriend Your Parts: Liv’s shift from numbing (necklace-spinning as a kid, over-yoga later) to curiosity—“Why are you here, part?”—echoes Smoke’s forgiveness of younger selves. Healing begins with listening, not exiling, a cornerstone of her coaching at oliveyahfisch.com.
- Conscious Filters: Smoke’s cleanup—swapping violent movies for poetry—pairs with Liv’s “eliminate the dead weight” call. Her site’s focus on aligning energy underscores this: curate inputs that elevate, not drain.
- Presence as Medicine: Liv’s 50/50 awareness (self and other) makes you “human medicine”—Smoke’s electric shocks affirm it. Her work amplifies this: hold space without judgment, and transformation flows.
- One Step at a Time: Smoke’s podcast plunge—learning editing, trusting intuition—mirrors Liv’s “intuitive action.” Her site’s “say yes to purpose” vibe backs this: commit, even imperfectly, and the path unfolds.
Universal Truths
- Consciousness is a Choice: Liv’s five stages—to me (victim), by me (rush), for me (opportunity), through me (divine), as me (oneness)—frame awakening as a daily opt-in, reflected in her book title, Spiritual Heartbeat. Smoke ties it to Hawkins’ levels: it’s universal, no guru badge needed.
- Safety Shapes Us: Liv’s “Am I safe?” lens, forged in chaos, aligns with Smoke’s past avoidance—core wounds steer us until we face them, a truth her coaching tackles head-on.
- Reciprocity Rules: Giving without expectation—Smoke’s poem, Liv’s service shift—yields abundance. Her site’s promise of “reciprocal growth” nods to this cosmic law.
- Suffering’s Optional: Pain’s inevitable, but suffering isn’t—Smoke and Liv agree. Her work reframes triggers as gifts, lightening the load for clients and listeners alike.
Examples
- Cult Escape: Liv’s parents’ daring exit at 6, despite ostracism, shows intuition’s might—Smoke links it to his drinking drop-off, a healing byproduct, not a forced fix.
- Sedona Breathwork: Smoke’s 2-hour breathing session, birthing “I am complete, whole, no need outside approval,” syncs with Liv’s “perfect, whole, complete” prayer—a self-referral epiphany her site champions.
- YPO Encounter: Liv clocking Smoke’s shift—“You’re different”—at a YPO event showcases her people-reading gift, now a tool to uplift via oliveyahfisch.com, not just survive.
- Amy’s Return: Liv reclaiming her tree-hugging 5-year-old self (once sidelined for “Liv”) parallels Smoke’s inner-child poem—both tap wisdom in what they’d dismissed, a theme her coaching nurtures.
Smoke Trail Threads
Episode 8 builds on Episode 7’s forgiveness (Luke’s enemies, Smoke’s trauma) with Liv’s self-kindness spin, and its nonattachment (Luke’s deer stand, Smoke’s outcomes) via her “as me” oneness. Smoke’s Nepal jolt and Luke’s star-gazing awe resonate in Liv’s “through me” divine flow, teased in Spiritual Heartbeat. Sedona’s pulse hums again, amplifying tools like presence and vulnerability—core to Smoke’s quest to share what clicks for seekers.
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