Episode 28
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Welcome to the Smoke Trail hosted by Smoke Wallin. Join Smoke on a unique journey of awakening consciousness, sharing authentic stories and deep discussions with inspiring guests. Explore spirituality, leadership and transformation tools to elevate your Path.
Smoke:It's been fun because we're all on our own journeys, right? We're all figuring out consciousness, figuring out whatever level we are. We're figuring out kind of what's next, what's next. And this, the smoke trail is really, it's the smoke trail, which is like, it's my journey, but it's me inviting other guests who are on their journeys. And it's like, let's have a conversation around what we're learning, what we're seeing, what knowledge we bring and what works.
Smoke:I'm all about what works.
Dr. Jere:Love it. Love it. Yeah, so let's do it, man. I'm excited. Thanks for
Smoke:having me, by the way. Doctor. Jerry. I'm super excited to have you a guest. We've become friends recently.
Smoke:I got to experience the Rasha machine in Vegas and go into the dome and had a really cool experience. And I think we hit it off in person. And I thought right away, I'd love to get you talking about this. I know you've got your own podcast. We'll publish all that stuff in the show notes, but I've listened to some of the episodes and really, really interesting stuff.
Smoke:So first of all, welcome to the Smoke Trail, and thanks for taking some time to share some of your knowledge with me and with our audience.
Dr. Jere:Thanks for having me smoke. Yeah, let's do this.
Smoke:Good deal. Well, so now you're are you in Vegas today or you were somewhere else?
Dr. Jere:I
Smoke:am. I know you travel a lot.
Dr. Jere:Yes, yes. I am in Vegas currently, yes.
Smoke:All right. So we got the West Coast covered. I'm in Sedona. We're going to talk about a few things. I know you've got your foundation out in The Philippines, which is cool.
Smoke:Love to hear a little bit about what your mission is and what you guys are doing there. And I know your mom's really involved in that, which is cool. Yeah. But let's start out with I mean, maybe we can give a little bit of background, right? I want to talk about the Rasha.
Smoke:I want to talk about the scalar and the 12 I'm saying it wrong, but 12 base frequencies and how that's different from a lot of the stuff that's mechanical here on that we're used to. But how did you get started? I mean, brought you down this path? I think that would be really interesting to kind of as foundationally just, you know, you didn't wake up as a child and say, I am going to invent the Russia. I don't think.
Smoke:Did you?
Dr. Jere:No. No. No. As a child, I I did wanna be you know, if you'd asked me at nine what I wanted to be, it was an astronaut. Right?
Dr. Jere:So
Smoke:Dude, you're you, me, and my last guest too.
Dr. Jere:Yeah. Right? Yeah. So you know? And as children, you know, we we always we're always as children, we we can tap into certain things, right, certain knowledge, and and we're not we're not filtered from, you know, let's say, 13 on, right, how we're, like, programmed for, you know, whatever people want us to be like in society.
Dr. Jere:So at an early age, I was I was pretty open to, you know, the the endless possibilities of of what we can do as humans. However, let's say in February, right, September 2000, I actually suffered a massive heart attack, right, due to a drug overdose. And in that moment well, actually, in that experience because, you know, it's really no time. But in that in that experience, smoke, I was able to, let's say, experience our true nature, which is consciousness or you can say energy. Yep.
Dr. Jere:And that's where my life just pivoted. Because prior to that, I wasn't into spirituality. I wasn't into anything science related. Right? I come from a family of of surgeons and doctors from the New York, New Jersey area, and I was, you know, put on a track where, oh, you you know, go to pre med school and let's become a doctor.
Dr. Jere:But, you know, pre med wasn't for me. I knew that I felt deep in my in my core that something was off with with the current Western medical model. And I'm not saying it's not it doesn't have its uses. Right? But I'm I knew back then that, you know, that wasn't for me.
Dr. Jere:So, you know, a lot that's how it really started. Right? And that everyone asks me, you know, how was the near death experience? Oh, it was an outer body. Like, my consciousness came out, so I had what they call an OBE, an outer body experience.
Smoke:Yep.
Dr. Jere:And then as I was looking at my body from about maybe two or three feet, 45 degrees above my head, I was I had 360 degree awareness smoke. And the moment I asked the internal question, well, who am I? Because I saw my body lifeless. Right? I was immediately uploaded from this reality to what I call, let's say, the universal source code or or god, if you will, spirit, divine, whatever you wanna label it.
Dr. Jere:I call it the source consciousness field, unified field. Yeah. But in that space, you know everything. You know, when they say you'd when you die, and unfortunately, everyone will, they come to learn the truth of everything they wanted to know, and that is absolutely possible and true. So that's how it all started.
Smoke:I love that. One of my guests called it cosmic heart. I like that one. But there's lots of names for what this universal consciousness is. I am learning all about it as I go along with my journey.
Smoke:And I do understand there's now been just so many people who have had near death experiences that have come back and told a similar story, experienced something like that of some sort. One of the problem or one of the challenges we have in this realm is and it's by design, we don't remember. So we're spiritual beings. We are born into these physical bodies. And our memory of being a spiritual being is blotted out.
Smoke:And maybe we have bits and pieces as children, but then it kind of gets tamped down. So when you did that, I think a lot of the experiences that I've observed or have been relayed have they could see the all, they saw love, they saw this. And then they went back and they remembered that part, but they didn't remember a lot of specifics. But I think you came back with specific memories, at least you opened a channel where you could bring information from that bigger consciousness into this realm. So maybe you want to comment on that or tell me a little bit about that part.
Smoke:How do you remember things?
Dr. Jere:Right. That's a great question. Prior to that event, I call it an event, I didn't have any belief systems and filters. Right? Because your belief system sets your filters.
Dr. Jere:Right? And then that sets what you experience in this reality as well as when you leave this three d physical plane. So the belief system, say if you're Muslim or you're Buddhist or you're Catholic, you know, if that's your belief system, those filters are what you're going to experience when you leave this physical realm. Right?
Smoke:So we're all gonna say I was right. Yeah.
Dr. Jere:But the thing is I didn't have any of that. I didn't have any filters. I didn't expect to see Buddha or Jesus or angels or any of that. I that wasn't in my DNA. So in a way that actually allowed me to experience, you know, reality as it truly is in terms of multidimensional framework, right, which is all about consciousness and and energy.
Dr. Jere:Right? So I was lucky, I'd say, that I was able to just experience the awe of the at onement. Okay? Because, you know and and, know and I I understand people when they when they say they experience or they see love. Right?
Dr. Jere:But, you know, that's a matter of definition and what love is to each and every individual. Right? Because love is not an emotion. Love is the vibrational residence of, you know, a being with the all oneness. Right?
Dr. Jere:So it's it's actually a vibrational oscillation resonance. Right? Of either one or two beings or or or the whole entire cosmos. Right? It's a it's actually a feel sense rather than, you know, an emotion.
Dr. Jere:So that allowed me to experience, you know, our true nature, which is energy, but not just energy because energy is thrown around like, you know, it's just it's a word that's just been, you know, I'd say abused. Right? I'm talking about scalar morphogenetic energy, which is the, I would say, the the foundation, the the parent of light and sound of electrical and magnetic. Right? So, you know, scale
Smoke:of Yeah. The unmanifest. Right? It's the it's the substrate of what all of our reality is created from.
Dr. Jere:Correct. Okay. Absolutely well said.
Smoke:Yeah. It resonates with me because when I went through my I've gone through my journey of awakening and becoming an understanding consciousness and trying to understand it more, one of the things that I lacked was a strong tradition. I didn't grow up in a religious family. In fact, in some ways religion was a version because of some of the things I experienced as a child, but I didn't have a lot of programming. And so when I started down this thing, was like, Woah, what?
Smoke:Really? It's all this other stuff? And I had this big awakening. But I wasn't dogmatic about anything. So I decided to kind of do my own research.
Smoke:So I read the Dhammapada. I read the Bhagavad Gita. I read the Christian mystics. I've sourced things from all lots of sources. But I kind of looked at them with a neutral lens.
Smoke:Like, what are they saying that's in common? What are they saying that clearly a lot of that stuff was written in a different age, with different languages, with different translations, with lots of cultural layers, right, and human ego minds that have gotten involved in the if you and I could interview the Buddha or Jesus Christ, we would have a different transmission than what these filters that have gone into the transcripts and all the scripture and everything, it's been altered to some degree. But there's a core teaching that I have found across them all, which is like, Okay. But because I came with that less of a burden of paradigm, I think I've been able to absorb it differently than some others. So that resonates with me.
Smoke:The fact that you had that experience and you didn't have this really strong ingrained programmed expectation that you're going to see angels or you're going to see this or that lets you just see what is.
Dr. Jere:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
Smoke:I just put in my words in my frame, but it's really cool. So you've got to see the substrate. You got to see the scalar substrate of reality. And then how did that come back? When you came back to your physical form, no longer a floating spirit or whatever you were, narcissist in general, How did that translate to like, okay, you woke up and you're like, okay, I just I just had this incredible experience.
Smoke:What do I do with it? What do I remember? What do I how does it Right. Manifest into this realm?
Dr. Jere:So think of it, you know, your your viewers can think of it as a an upgrade. You know, when when you do software upgrades on your computer or your phone, right, you the firmware has to upgrade, and you get new software and new firmware. So that's really what happened. Right? It was, you know, an upgrade of my prior software.
Dr. Jere:Right? And that's how when I was back in my physical body, you know, I didn't come in with the information per se. Think of it as, you know, a Dropbox where you have those files. Right? Because the the the information came in very, very high, I would say, oscillating data.
Dr. Jere:Because when you have we live in three d. Right? When you when you go into the higher dimensions, the energy doesn't become higher in vibration because that's erroneous. Vibration is energy contraction, energy holding, which means it's denser. It's more higher oscillating frequency smoke.
Dr. Jere:So the fit this physical body is was not able to to, let's say, handle or let's say hold that high oscillating frequency. Otherwise, I would have spontaneously combusted. Right? And humans throughout history have just spontaneously combusted. Usually, I mean, I would say almost ninety nine point nine percent of humans that have spontaneously combusted has to do with, you know, energy, higher oscillating energy trying to anchor into the physical, right, atomic, and it just won't the body won't handle it.
Dr. Jere:So I came back with, let's just say, Dropbox files. Right? So as I, similar to you, when I came back, I had a different perspective. I knew things that I I didn't know prior to dying, and I didn't like what you did. I did my due diligence.
Dr. Jere:I researched. I studied every single esoteric base of knowledge. Not only that, I've I even went into, you know, sciences and seeing seeing which one, you know, was right and which one came closer to the truth. And then and and and like you said, and you know, at the core of every teaching, it's it's pretty much the same. It's love.
Dr. Jere:It's love based. But it's the humans that with their with their filters that created these different paradigms to say, oh, this is different because we believe this and and we're better than you and all that stuff. Right?
Smoke:That was always the followers, not the not the avatar.
Dr. Jere:Correct. Correct.
Smoke:So, like, Jesus didn't say, you know, make a religion out of me. You know, he he said, he preached love. Preached what he preached. The Buddha didn't say make a religion out of me and make statues of me all over the world. He said, be a Buddha, Do this.
Smoke:Do these things. Live right. Do these things. You know? And so those filters are absolutely distorting the original avatar's teachings.
Dr. Jere:Right. Right. And I'm I'm pretty sure, you know, Buddha and and Jesus today wouldn't be too happy about what their name became. And it was like, you know, you. Right?
Dr. Jere:Smoke, you stand for something. You're doing your service to humanity. And a thousand years from now, right, you you come back and you look at humanity, they they they built a, like, a statue of smoke. Right? Like, you know, praising you.
Dr. Jere:That's not what you created. That's not what you were standing for. If I were Buddha and Jesus, I wouldn't be too happy, to be honest with you.
Smoke:I would say Buddhism has departed less than any of the other religions from its core teachings. So it's probably maintained a certain level of calibration. I'm a big fan of David R. Hawkins and his work with Power versus Force. And he calibrated all this stuff using kinesiology testing.
Smoke:And Buddhism tests still at a very high level compared to the other religions from the original teachings. All the original teachings calibrate at a very high level. So it's interesting for sure. And one thing about the oscillating, I think this is confusing to people because I think you said a really important thing. Higher vibration isn't higher, it's faster oscillating vibrations.
Smoke:It's almost like you know the movie Interstellar? Remember that movie?
Dr. Jere:Yeah, of course. Great movie, right? And
Smoke:remember when he had a dock with a broken spaceship and it was spinning and he had to match the oscillation to dock. And I think of it in meditation. It's a little bit like the calmer the more we can settle our gross energies of thought, mind, emotions, the grocer energies, as we get control of that, we get calmer. And as we get calmer, our oscillations are actually going up, and that's how we access higher consciousness.
Dr. Jere:Well, no. That's you you hit it right on the head. Right? And it's not humanity's fault that they were not taught what the difference between vibration and oscillation. It's just it just is.
Dr. Jere:Right? And we were taught that, okay, the higher vibration, that means it's higher in consciousness. That's erroneous. Now it's not wrong. It's just you're missing a huge part of the equation.
Dr. Jere:Right? So in other words now, look, respectfully, I've studied Hawkins. I I I read his book. I studied his scale. But when you look at his scale and it's based on vibratory, on vibrations.
Dr. Jere:Right? It's not based on oscillation. If you, smoke, were to insert oscillation into that equation, then you birth a new scale of consciousness that is more in line with reality as it is. Right? So Yeah.
Dr. Jere:We don't
Smoke:we don't need to debate Hawkins, but I would say that I'm not sure he does that because what he does is he calibrates it based on muscle testing, right? Kinesiology, right? So he basically just and the numbers were so big, it was like, Okay, this has to be a log 10 scale. It doesn't actually say what it is. There's not really a definition of what it is.
Smoke:It's probably measuring oscillations is my assertation. It's actually measuring what you're talking about. But he never talks about whether it's vibration or oscillation or anything like that. He just talks about the measures he got. So anyway, there's probably that's a really maybe an interesting conversation for us at some point.
Smoke:But either way, I think the point about it, it's not a misnomer, as you say, it's right, but it's a misunderstanding of what that means. So higher energy levels is really higher oscillation levels. It's the speed of the oscillation, right?
Dr. Jere:Right.
Smoke:You can't see it if you're oscillating at a lower level. It's like we can't see there's a lot of our visual spectrum is like this compared to like all the things that you that we know is out there. And they're still here. They're around us. They're everywhere.
Smoke:We can't perceive it with our normal five senses because we only are able to perceive that certain level of oscillation. Correct.
Dr. Jere:Right. And we have much more than just five senses. Right? So if you want if people wanted to access those, let's say, higher sensory perceptions, you're gonna need to balance out the vibratory versus the oscillation and and make it have them come into, let's say, that zero point. Right?
Dr. Jere:That's the that's the key. But
Smoke:yeah. Cool. Love that. Right. So so you so you you had the Dropbox of files.
Smoke:Yep. And you did your deep dive researching everything. And as you did that, you were started to be able to unlock those files.
Dr. Jere:Correct. It took years, though. It didn't happen overnight. Yeah. As you know, you know, it took it took many years for to prepare my physical body to even remotely start extrapolating and extracting that information because, you know, it's just too it was too too really very powerful.
Dr. Jere:Right?
Smoke:Yeah. So yeah. And then you were able to start extracting them, and I'm imagining that it didn't all happen at once. So they started to come to you, you started to understand them. And then how did you turn that into actionable things?
Smoke:It's one thing having an understanding. It's another thing doing what you've done, which is you've actually created the Rasha system where you've unlocked these frequencies and you can actually transmit them to people. So how did that, you know, from understanding go to now I can turn this into something that people can utilize?
Dr. Jere:Right. It comes back to remembering why I agreed to birthing on this planet. It comes back to your avatar contract, if you will. Right? And most people, you know, unfortunately, don't remember why they came here.
Dr. Jere:Right? They just figure, oh, my parents, you know, came together, and I was birthed. Right? But Yeah. But you you know, there it's almost like cosmic amnesia that takes place when you birth.
Dr. Jere:Right? Now it took many years, right, for me to start making sense of all the information. And in the end, it's really remembering why I what my mission is, right, and why I came here. So the technology is is a portion of the data, the knowledge that I came back with, so to speak. And it really has to do with helping humanity reclaim their original potential.
Dr. Jere:Right? Who says that we have to die at a certain age? Right? Well, why is it then in, let's say, the Bhagavad Gita, or you can look at the Koran, or you can look at the Sumerian texts, or you can even look at the at the real Bible. Right?
Dr. Jere:The old previous Bible. Why is it then beings were living thousands of years? K? And that's something that's always stuck with me. Why is it current humans barely can make it out of their seventies, eighties?
Dr. Jere:You're lucky if you if you're a centurion at a 100. Right? So that was that was huge for me because I know I know that we really you know, death is erroneous. It's an it's not really what happens. Right?
Dr. Jere:It's like when you die, it's like taking off your clothes and then being free, being, like, nude. Right? But then when you come back to you you birth back in, you put on a new suit or a new dress, and you're in a new outfit. Right?
Smoke:You're back you're back in Earth school again.
Dr. Jere:There you go. So, you know, I I knew and I remembered why I came here, and that was really just to help, you know, humanity to be really in service to humanity versus service to self. And that's how the technology came about. You know, I I I remember, right, as if it happened yesterday, this death experience or this I call it transfer of consciousness experience. Yeah.
Dr. Jere:And if people smoke, we're able to reclaim that experience by not dying, not having to go through a traumatic, you know, near death experience. But if they can actually reclaim and remember that experience, then it would unlock their true potential. Right? And, yeah, that's how it all came into practicality, so to speak. That's awesome.
Smoke:I love it. I love it. And I I I really think that's it's cool to, like, unlock that a little bit because I I want you to talk a little bit about what it does for people, how it works. Because I'm one of those people who I have no problem flying in a jet airplane to go to I was in Thailand earlier this year to give a talk. And I don't know how to build an airplane, and I actually don't know how to fly an airplane, although I could learn that probably.
Smoke:But I have no problem flying in one. And I do it all the time. And there's lots of examples. I am perfectly fine. If something works, I'm happy to use it.
Smoke:I don't need to know how to build it. So this works. You got the information. You created it. What is it we're actually doing?
Smoke:We're adding frequencies to our field that unlock some of that potential. Is that a crude way of saying it? Or tell me tell me how you describe it. Right.
Dr. Jere:You're you're on that. You're on the you're on the cusp. Right? So so the the Rasha technology is is not a healing device. It isn't we don't claim to heal anything.
Dr. Jere:It really is a communication device, right, based on scale our energy, based on what Nikola Tesla was able to prove back in the early nineteen hundreds. It's what professor doctor Konstantin Maill from Germany was able to prove. So, really, it's a communication device, and we're communicating to the DNA, but not the DNA that codes for protein, the two to one to two to three strands. It's geared to communicating to the 98% of what we call the noncoding genes. Right?
Dr. Jere:The ones that
Smoke:What the traditional guys call junk DNA, which it's not, right?
Dr. Jere:Correct.
Smoke:It's absolutely
Dr. Jere:Yeah.
Smoke:It's actually real and useful, but it's our science. Our traditional science doesn't recognize it.
Dr. Jere:Correct. Right. Mainstream science doesn't. But, however, you have the Russians, right, that did the research on this, the Germans, you know, they all knew that this intronic or intron potential DNA, there was something to it. And they they you know, while the human genome product project in the West studied, you know, splicing the genes and all the chemical based, you know, functions of the of the of the genes, you know, the Russians and the Germans started to look at, what is this, you know, this quantum supercomputer that can hold and transmit information, primarily scale our information?
Dr. Jere:So that's all we're really doing, and we're do we're transmitting these frequencies from know, let's just say if Tesla were alive today, the the scalar coils that we've created are based on his, you know, eighteen ninety nine patents. So they do truly access scalar energy, and we transmit not binaural beats, not base 10 frequencies, but it's a base 12, right, format. So it's it's a base 12 frequencies that are transmitted to the intron DNA. Right.
Smoke:And and that intron DNA, which it's really like our cells are like antennae, right? They're basically receiving information and they only can receive it if it's well, first of all, you got to clear yourself up and clear out a lot of things that are in the way of layers of baggage. I call them emotional energy, hairballs, whatever. In any awakening process, clean got up. Clean up your things that traumas, all the stuff that people hold in energy field that block the antenna, that block the receiving of this stuff, right?
Smoke:So you can blast this stuff at someone, but if they're still, when I went and did it, deciding on the frequencies, you had a lot of choices of all kinds of things that you can do and some of them were about trauma and healing and stuff. And I said to your team, well, I feel, every time I say this, I find something else, but I feel like I've cleared up my energetic system. I don't feel like I have any of that stuff in my system anymore. I'm clear, I'm clean, I've purified. So give me the next level stuff.
Smoke:I want to do expanding consciousness. I want to do bigger picture stuff. So I had like, they said, well, this is a really powerful program. A lot of people wouldn't do this the first time. But for me, it was like, okay, I know where I am.
Smoke:I'm pretty clear on my own thing. So now I'm just working on expanding my own knowledge, my own consciousness. And so I got blasted with some really powerful stuff in it. But you have to clear up your antennae, your cells, your body, your energetic body to receive some of this stuff.
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. I don't know if any of your listeners or viewers, it's like having you know, like a satellite dish for your TV. And let's just say you're caught in a snowstorm and the and the snow piles up on the on the actual dish. And I'm talking from experienced smokers. I've had to, you know, get get like a broom and a ladder and like clear off the the the this like the three inches
Smoke:of avalanche. I I'm with you. I'm like I was like there was like a little hole, like, somewhere that opened up for me and I'm like,
Dr. Jere:Right. Right. No. You you you said it perfectly. You gotta you know, you must, you know, let's say, be prepared.
Dr. Jere:You know, let's I I call it, you know, you could just throw out the garbage or clean out the gar you gotta clean it out before, you know, you you take in new information. So yeah. And it's and, you know, it's everything that we do is is is based on, you know, science that that was hidden. Right? Mainstream science calls it pseudoscience because they don't want you to to realize that you're that you, the human being, is is one of the most amazing, powerful beings in this cosmos.
Dr. Jere:But we've been taught we live on a small planet way out, you know, in the universe with no one we're it. Right? Right. So isolated. Right?
Dr. Jere:But it's just really remembering that we are amazing. You know, we're we're a reflection of, you know, the all oneness. Right? The source, god, if you will. We are a reflection of that.
Dr. Jere:So, yeah, it's about reclaiming what, we actually were meant to be.
Smoke:Yeah. I I'm with you there. And I have a I have a recollection of being on another realm in a fairly I don't talk about this. I haven't talked about it on this show, but I'll just share a little snippet of being in a, I would guess, an elite group of I don't know if it's rulers or very high status beings. And we were debating that humanity and earth has gone the wrong way.
Smoke:And we were having this argument among ourselves. It's like a council. Think of like a Greek or Roman council in a circle. And I was of the side that was arguing strongly that humanity deserves help, deserves saving, deserves we should help them. And the other half of our group were like, no, they're not worth it.
Smoke:They can't overcome their animal. They're destroying themselves and each other. And as part of that debate, somehow I had to go back and become a human to show that I could do it without all my powers or whatever. And it's a strange thing to say, it's real and what I remember. And so I had to go and live in trauma and do these things so that I could demonstrate to wherever that group.
Smoke:I don't even know where they are exactly. I don't have all the details, but I had to demonstrate that it was doable so that our group are would help humanity. I I believe I'm on that path, but.
Dr. Jere:You are. Yeah. And it's amazing that you remember that because that is actually what happened.
Smoke:Yeah.
Dr. Jere:You are part of that council. So Yeah. Bravo for remembering, you know, that. I mean, that's for you to share that, first of all, I'm honored that you shared that, and most of your viewers and listeners may just chalk it up to, you know, you know, an experience and and, you know, whatever state. Right?
Dr. Jere:But I know from feel sense, the energy behind your words that everything that you just shared is what you actually experienced. So, you know, that's a that's a very high council transmission that you just shared with everyone. So thank you for for doing that.
Smoke:Well, thank you. I I appreciate that. I there's not I I don't I there's literally a very almost no one I ever talk about this and certainly not on the show, but it is a thing. So it felt like the time to do it.
Dr. Jere:I know because I was on that council and I was probably the one saying, humanity just really screwing things up. Here we go, I'm here and we're here together full circle.
Smoke:Yeah. And I think there's a lot of us that just don't realize it. Uh-huh.
Dr. Jere:Amazing.
Smoke:Yeah. And and this is my first re my first incarnation on this planet.
Dr. Jere:Mhmm. Amazing.
Smoke:Yeah. Cool. Yeah. So there's that. So I think it's all cool.
Smoke:I love it. I think it's heaven on Earth. This is the greatest opportunity for any consciousness. It's purgatory. So we have the lowest of the low.
Smoke:We have people living at the lowest base of consciousness where they're animalistic. All they are, they aren't able to think for themselves. They're just reactionary. They're living in the worst scenarios possible, a hell on Earth, if you will. And we have the ability to experience the Buddha mind, to go all the way up to full consciousness, universal consciousness within this physical realm.
Smoke:It's a very unique possibility. And of course, people live their lives and never realize it. But I think this is a time where more and more people are getting glimpses of it, getting little pieces of it, getting things. And we're piecing together this information, which is why it's so important for these conversations because by day, I'm a normie. I do M and A.
Smoke:Rob, I sell companies, I'm in business still, traveling around the world, helping CEOs and stuff. And if you just looked at me when I'm out there talking to people, I'd say, Oh, that's just a really good business person who's got a good heart and is aligned. Yet it's actually a much bigger thing. That's one of the robes I wear and I do that. And it enables me to go help and reach a lot of people because I have the freedom to do that.
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. And that's a that's a massive commission for you, meaning, you know, you know, responsibility when I say commission. That's a huge responsibility that you've accepted to do that. And, you know, you do an amazing amazing work to humanity, for humanity. So, yeah, love it.
Smoke:Yeah. Well, thank you. And it's up to each of us to do our own work internally so that we can be able to do these things and help others. But it's also part of the mission is find each other. Who else is on this journey that's realized it and how do we help each other?
Smoke:So that's a little bit of this conversation. You and I were rapping right away and I'm like, You've got to come on my show. You're like, Okay. It sounds good, but you just know, right?
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. It's great to to, let's say, reconnect. Right? And I know that there are others out there with perhaps similar, you know, experiences as you and I. And, you know, I'm trusting that perhaps this, you know, podcast episode will spark their memory.
Dr. Jere:Right? Spark some type of remembrance. Right?
Smoke:Yeah. Because a lot of our problem, in my experience was doubting. Doubting, is it real? And what I know is this actually am I is this something I'm just am I making this up? But it's real.
Smoke:And I think that's where a lot of normies or just people living their lives have experiences. Everyone has had some mystical experiences in their lives, whether they were children or not. They may have blotted out. Or they may have attributed it to something like, oh, I don't know what that was, so I just buried it. I forgot about it.
Smoke:But everyone has some level of these experiences. It's just recognizing and knowing that it's actually all real. It's all real. And we may be perceiving things that are beyond explanation in our current society. And we attribute it to like, oh, I'm just not going to talk about that.
Smoke:So one reason I started this podcast was simply to give permission. I'm a YPO guy, I'm in business, I've done all this stuff. We got MBA, I went to Cornell, I did all this normie stuff, right? And yet I'm here talking to you about this higher knowledge. And hopefully that helps others recognize, A, don't doubt, like if you experience something or if you think you're getting information or you're sensing something greater, lean into it.
Smoke:Don't ignore it. And just don't be afraid. I mean, don't be afraid to talk about it. I think there were times when talking about anything like this, you would be persecuted or the church would burn you up at the stake or whatever. But there's lots of times in history where you could get attacked for this stuff.
Smoke:And even today, that's probably true in some ways. But I think today, it's out there and it's getting out there more and more.
Dr. Jere:No, absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more, Smoke. And I feel that podcasts like yours and mine is really about trans transmitting transmitting our experiences, you know, to others that hopefully will will will catch on to it and, you know, experience, you know, what we experience. Right? Because in the end, you know, no one's no one's immune to, you know, the transfer of consciousness experience.
Dr. Jere:Everybody that's listening to your show and watching this is going to, whether they like it or not, experience their true nature. Right? When they do the transfer of consciousness experience or the death experience. And, really, you know, you know, it's it's it's individuals like you that are helping, you know, those people prepare. You know, no one wants to we weren't taught, you know, as children or growing up till you gotta prepare for death.
Dr. Jere:But but why is it then you have certain eastern traditions? You know? And some some westerns, you know, you have the the Vikings and and the Nords. They, as well as the the eastern groups, they celebrated death. They they prepared for that transition because I feel it is the greatest journey that you will ever take.
Dr. Jere:Right? Yep. You know, we we spend so much time making plans, booking our hotels and our flights, and we know what the agenda is when we go to certain places, what our schedule is. It's ludicrous to think that we we don't even prepare for the greatest journey, which is the, you know, the death experience. And people are not ready for it.
Smoke:No. And there's consequences. Right? So karma's real. The whole universe is built on our thoughts, actions, who we It's the energetic makeup of who we are at any given moment is the cumulative karma.
Smoke:And I don't know what the right I'll use energy because that's how I think about it. But energetically, like attracts like. You go where you are. So whatever level we've gotten to in terms of our level of consciousness is we're going go to that realm, then we're going to have if there's lessons that we were sent here to learn, there's things that we're supposed to unlock that we didn't do, and we've made choices for self instead of the all or that are you could go down a list, you can call them evil or you can just call them ignorant as the Buddha did. But either way, they are choices that are for the self against the all.
Smoke:And by the way, for the all is not against the self. We are part of the all. So doing right by yourself and in the all is what the all is. It's not a eitheror. It's not like, oh, I have to suffer to do something for the all.
Smoke:No, it's not that. It's, Let's lift up humanity. Let's lift up the world. Let's lift up nature. Let's do the right thing.
Smoke:So if we're doing that, we're going to learn and grow and we're going to go there. And if we do the other way, there's plenty of that we see, just turn on the news, look at the internet, look at the political world. And there, you can see many people making choices for the self and not for the all. And they get to it's a karmically perfect world. There's no one gets out, like, free.
Smoke:Like, you don't you don't, like, get to do something, take advantage of people, you know, get power in this realm. You might have a great run for a little while, but either it's gonna catch up to you now in this realm or, like, as soon as you're dead, you're gonna get to get to experience the opposite side of what you did to someone.
Dr. Jere:Oh, yes. Yes. And most people aren't taught that, smoking. You know? You know, there is that law of of choice and consequence.
Dr. Jere:Right? And people seem to have either forgotten or they just weren't taught that. Right? And they just go go throughout life. You know?
Dr. Jere:You know, they wanna be successful. They wanna have all this. You know? You know? And and for what?
Dr. Jere:Because you're not gonna be able to take it with you. All the money on the in your bank account, every single thing that you've accumulated in this three d life, you aren't taking with you.
Smoke:Yep. Except for what you experienced when you were hovering above your body, your consciousness. So what you have accumulated in your energetic field is what goes with you.
Dr. Jere:1000%.
Smoke:Good or bad.
Dr. Jere:Exactly, good or bad. You're taking that with you, right? Yeah, no, absolutely.
Smoke:I love this is awesome. All right, so let me pivot and just ask you a couple of questions about two topics that I know are important for you that are part of your journey. One is you're you're an MMA coach. You have a gym. You're you have you know?
Smoke:Tell me a little bit about that that track of your of your world.
Dr. Jere:Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's, it's really Krav Maga, right, which is
Smoke:Krav Maga.
Dr. Jere:Which is which is my base, which is a an Israeli type of self defense. But I've I've I've, you know, I've, let's just say, made it more, let's say, expandable to to people. And I I teach, you know, primarily females and children and males too on on, you know, certain situations, you know, and how to, you know, go home to your families. Right? It's about, you know, protecting yourself and and coming home to your loved ones.
Dr. Jere:That's really, you know, what I teach. And in that, I was able to be able to partner with, you know, Bare Knuckle Fighting Championships, which is a which is a you know, it's an old school fighting system that they did, you know, I think back in The UK, right, you know, Bare Knuckle. So yeah. And I I I train with, you know, certain champions, primarily a female champion, Christine Ferreia. She's she's a force.
Dr. Jere:And, yeah, and that's that's pretty much, you know you know, body, mind, and spirit. So that's the body part. Right?
Smoke:Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Jere:Well, And that's you know, you a wrestler, right?
Smoke:Something like
Dr. Jere:that for Cornell. For
Smoke:sure. But I mean, your mind is so much a part of your ability to stay present and perform in any kind of situation. Anybody who's an athlete, anybody that's done anything physically hard knows that the mind is the biggest part of it, right? So it's both. Absolutely.
Smoke:But also physical training and all the stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Literally, you're catching me at the end of my seventy two hour fast that I just did because I felt like I wanted a little reset and just wanted to cleanse a little bit. And I'm like, oh, I used to do this for wrestling back in the day when I was cutting weight. It's actually no big deal.
Smoke:And people think that's hard. It's not hard at all if you decide you want to do it. It's like when I quit drinking, forty years of heavy drinking. And when I went through this experience, one day I had an experience and I said, I had a big conversation with my self, higher self. And I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Smoke:Was something like, I love myself. Well, if you love yourself, why are you poisoning yourself? And I'm like, Oh, you're right. And then I stopped. And it just I never had another drink.
Smoke:And and it was just it just fell away. This fast has been it not even uncomfortable, really. It's just been like, okay. I'm just doing that. And my I could I could keep going.
Smoke:I don't need to stop right now. But I just I set a objective. I'm gonna do seventy two hours and do a reset, and I'll probably do it again and go longer next time. But, you know, it's feels good.
Dr. Jere:So yeah. And and and most people, you know, hopefully, they relisten to this or rewatch this, what you just talked about is so important, you know, as we, let's just say, prepare for life after Earth. Because what you're talking about, Smoke, is something that you've you've had since your college days with wrestling and weight cutting, and that's discipline. Right? The discipline to to to to and it's all here.
Dr. Jere:It's all right here. Right? And if people just, you know, get disciplined, whatever it is, whether that you wanna be successful, you wanna be spiritual, you wanna whatever it is, be disciplined. Right? And that takes I mean, most people aren't.
Dr. Jere:Right? So what you're sharing about your seventy two hour fast, you know, most people think, oh my god. That's crazy. I can't do that. No.
Dr. Jere:It's because they're not disciplined. But it's absolutely doable, and you just proved it. Right? So yeah.
Smoke:Yeah, and it's freedom. So in academic circles, in certain circles, there's like, is there real free will, whatever. There is less or more free will depending on your level of So if your consciousness is at a low level and you're living in shame, anger, guilt, whatever, like all the human emotions that we all experience, but we have to transcend to get to higher levels, then you are reactionary. You're mechanical, you're animalistic. You pretty much don't have a choice because you're going to be responding to stimuli.
Smoke:Whatever that stimuli might be, you're going to respond without a gap. And as we raise our level of consciousness, we have the ability to create a gap between stimuli and response. And that gap is free will. It gives you the choice. Now, it's not ultimate free will.
Smoke:I can't fly up to that mountain because I just decided to be probably because I haven't convinced myself how to do that yet, but you can't do that. I can't do that today, but I can. There's a range of options that expand as we expand our consciousness.
Dr. Jere:A thousand percent, really. I mean, you know, it's amazing how you can simplify that and transmit that information because that's one thing I've always, you know, I found challenging for myself is, you know, I I can speak the the physics and the science, and I start talking.
Smoke:I got it.
Dr. Jere:And people are just like, what the heck are you talking about? But you you say it so eloquently and so simplistic that I'm learning from you, right? So it's amazing. It's just a Well, great
Smoke:thank you. I do have a superpower of a sort, which is I've always been able to kind of assimilate a bunch of information and then trend, make it understandable to a bigger, wider audience. Correct. So that's a little bit what this show is. Like, I'm not inventing a new thing or creating a machine to do something, but I can certainly help people contextualize it in a way that might resonate with a wider audience.
Smoke:So that's probably part of my mission, is part of my role is to help translate some of this stuff that not everybody's going to read the Upanishads or all the lectures of Meister Erichardt. But I understand what he was talking about. The soul's ground is where you touch God, where you touch source infinity. It's where Christ consciousness comes from. It's the base where we're connected as humans to that higher realm.
Smoke:And that's what Meister Eckhart was talking about. Simple terms.
Dr. Jere:Yes. Yeah, that whole series.
Smoke:Yeah. Well, all right, so MMA. And then tell us a little bit about your foundation. I know it's important to you. Your mom is the chairperson.
Smoke:You are the chief medical
Dr. Jere:read the President. Yes. Yeah.
Smoke:And so what are you guys trying to do there?
Dr. Jere:Right. So the the foundation's called the GC Rivera Foundation, and it's named after my mom's mom, my grandmother. Right? Henevavo Castro Rivera. And it's really about, you know, giving back to the poorest of the poor on the planet.
Dr. Jere:Right? And so my mom, she's a surgeon, and she takes, you know, her her surgical group, and we do major and minor surgery, right, into the poorest of the poor villages in The Philippines. Right? Yeah. And I take a group of our integrative doctors and nurses, and we actually take a look at and we help the autistic children and and children that with special needs.
Dr. Jere:And we utilize the Russia. Right? So for the past nine years, we've been going to The Philippines, and, hopefully, we're we're gonna branch out to other countries, but that's where we're you know, because when you go there, you gotta get approval from the government, blah blah blah blah blah. Right? So it's easy for us to go to get that approval.
Dr. Jere:So we've just you know, it's just work, and we go to different locations around The Philippines. Right? And most people will will say, well, you know, hey, Jerry. Well, I mean, I get it. Your mom does major and minor surgery, and they can do that within a week.
Dr. Jere:But what can you do in one week to children with autism or, you know, special needs? You know, blind, right, deaf. Yeah. And and the thing here is, you know, with the Russia, right, we take the Russia, and we actually affect their consciousness, right, in a positive way. Meaning, if we can spark, you know, because it it is it is a misconception that children on the spectrum, even children with Down syndrome or children that have special needs or blind and are not all there, meaning they're they're not bright.
Dr. Jere:I can I can tell you that's erroneous? The these children are some of the brightest
Smoke:Yeah.
Dr. Jere:Beings, the most loving, caring beings. And and may they may not be able to speak, smoke, but they're conscious. You can see it in their eyes. They know they know exactly what's going on. They just you know, there's that disconnect.
Dr. Jere:Right? So right? So that's what we do with the integrative team. Smoke is for for five to seven days, we see, you know, about usually, about 500 kids. You know, we bring, you know, therapists, you know, speech, motor skills.
Dr. Jere:You know, we play with them, but the but the whole the the the crux is the the Rasha and specifically the new Rasha headphones, which I had around here. But
Smoke:Yeah. I gotta I gotta work. I gotta get some of those. That's awesome. Yeah.
Smoke:The the well, look. That's the other thing I became aware of is that we you can go by the Buddhist teaching or anyone else who's at a high level. And you recognize that we are not our thoughts. We are not our emotions. We're not our mind.
Smoke:We're not our body. We're something greater. And we have a mind. We have a body. And we're here for a reason to use it.
Smoke:And they're tools. And some of these people who are disadvantaged with autism or some other ailments or things, they're still soul entities that are who they really are, their essence. And they may have some of the these senses are, in some ways, filters, right? We're only perceiving certain things. And their filters are a little bit different than what we call the norm or the bell curve of where people are.
Smoke:And so they're perceiving things differently and they're able to process it differently and they're able to communicate differently. But it doesn't mean that they're not super highly conscious. They're just not able to function in this realm, in this existence the same way.
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. Right? And and, you know, after after dealing with thousands and thousands and and seeing these children, you know, there's that shift and that spark in their eyes that you you notice when they get turned back on. Right? Yeah.
Dr. Jere:Meaning, they're just, oh, okay. They've been they've been activated. Right? And that's what we really, you know, are doing as far as the integrative part of the mission. Right?
Dr. Jere:And, yeah, and we're
Smoke:That's we're awesome. Yeah. It it it it also I I one of the things that I'm, been active in is we formed a group called Dignity Moves to try to address the unsheltered homeless really in California during COVID. And in that process, we've now warehoused thousands of people and we built villages, little Dignity Moose villages in all parts of California. We've been really good at cost effective, doing it quickly.
Smoke:And the idea is like getting someone off the street quickly and getting them to like, you can't even start treatment or job training or getting your head straight until you like had a good night's sleep with a door that locks, you can take a shower, you get some basic stuff and you kind of create a base. And the spark in the eyes of some of these homeless people, when they know that there's some random people like us who care and are doing this, and they have a home, they have a place to call home, they have a door to lock. And we've seen just unbelievable bounce backs from people. Not everybody, there's some people have severe mental problems and need a lot more help. But we get a lot of people that are able to go back to their families or go back to a more permanent independent living.
Smoke:But it's because they had a little breather. But it's that spark of consciousness that gets reactivated. And that happens one of my guests, Liv Fish, she's got a great new book coming out. And she calls it she says, and I totally agree with this, humans are the medicine. So as we heal ourselves, as we improve our own consciousness and we get our field right, being exposed to people that have healed is healing to others.
Smoke:So part of what you're doing is the rasa, and I'm sure that's helping. But part of it is you guys care. You're there taking the time and effort to be there and give them love. And that is healing in and of itself.
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. And your previous guess is 1000% correct. Right? When when you have a a being, whether it's a child or a woman or or a man, and you know that's that has reached a certain level of awareness and consciousness, the energy that emanates off of being like that is healing. It is the authentic organic medicine, 1000%.
Smoke:Yeah. Yeah. Well, hats off to your mom and to all the people involved on that. And if I can be helpful to you guys in that, I'm happy to be helpful at whatever way it makes sense, but it sounds like you're doing great, great work there.
Dr. Jere:Yeah, you're always welcome to join us.
Smoke:Be a fun adventure, yeah.
Dr. Jere:Yeah.
Smoke:Well, wonder if we could bring the Rasha to some of the homeless and what that would look like. Could brainstorm around that. Absolutely.
Dr. Jere:We'll take the headphones and we just, yeah, for a certain amount of days, why not?
Smoke:Yeah, no, it might be might be a good experiment to see if we can help some people there.
Dr. Jere:Let's do it. I'm in. You just let me know when. Awesome. Alright,
Smoke:awesome. Well, Doctor Jerry, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'd love to.
Smoke:There's so much stuff that you know and there's so much stuff in your work and who you are that I I think we could have a lot more conversations. So I'd love to put a placeholder and invite you back. Absolutely. Anytime. I think a really cool conversation that I'm sure our audience will get some nuggets of information.
Smoke:And this transmission, as you say, is the energetic transmission. It's not even so much the conversation, but what we're talking about is real. I think it'll help a lot of people.
Dr. Jere:Absolutely. And thank you for having me, Smoke, and thanks to all your listeners and viewers for watching.
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